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Wow, I didn't know that they had released an iPhone to any journalists. That was a cool video, and even with the problems he mentioned at the end, I'm still getting one.

Actually, I'm getting two, one for me, one for the wife. Come on Friday!

Me neither. Time to switch career paths?

... The battery is sealed in? Damnit.

Gotta love what Dvorak has to say.

Gotta love what Dvorak has to say.

That was hilarious.

I actually think it's a pretty interesting to watch, from an anthropological perspective. Every single detail of the phone is being analyzed to atoms by... everyone. As is every potentially hidden feature being pondered. Has to be one of most hyped devices since I can remember.

Really looking forward to seeing what happens when the phone's actually released.

Pogue's an idiot.

Hitler got less coverage when he invaded Poland.

No shit, Hitler didn't have a camera built in.

As far as reviews go, here's Stephen Levy's.

I wonder how many iPhones got sent out. 20? 30?

Speculation is that less than 20 were sent out.

I am with Dvorak on this - totally fed up with it!!! I think it is cool, if I had any type of need for one I would be interested but it holds ziltch attrcation for me.

If you'd just ignored the iPhone coverage, you wouldn't be here typing out badly spelt complaints, and would also save yourself some time. Time you could have spent trying to make push e-mail work on your RAZR or something.

Think about that.

"IT'S A PHONE" !!

Rich don't be a jackass it's unbecoming.

Also, Are the NYT moving house or something? looks like they're working in an abandoned warehouse.

Yes sir.

In Europe, it won't be $600, you can be sure of that. More like €600 (€800), or £600 ($1,200). Not that it'll be here for a long time, anyway, or that I'd be interested in getting one.

In Europe, it won't be $600, you can be sure of that. More like €600 (€800), or £600 ($1,200).

Not sure where you got that from.

iPods in the US start at $249, which is equivalent to £124. iPods here start at £179. That's less than £50 extra, about 70% more. 70% extra on $600 equals around £510 or €445.

Granted, it's steep, but (a) these simple maths don't take into account a lot of factors, (b) they're very rough, simple equations, (c) the pricing probably won't be the same as the iPods', (d) no one actually knows how much they'll be and it's pointless to wonder until you hear something official, there are too many unknowns.

"the pricing probably won't be the same as the iPods"

"no one actually knows how much they'll be and it's pointless to wonder until you hear something official, there are too many unknowns."

That's paradoxical, ye gods man the universe is about to explode!!

;o

NB: guaranteed that in the UK we will get soundly 'rogered' right up the backside for this thing in terms of price!

It may be a little contradictory, but I think it's a fair assumption that the pricing probably won't be the same as iPods -- they are, after all, not iPods. (And by that, I mean there are many more factors to consider when pricing. iPhones are much more advanced than iPods, and we don't even know who the carrier(s) will be yet.)

And that's not quite in the same league as stating they'll probably end up costing $1,200. It's a little early for predictions like that, I think.

"IT'S A PHONE" !!

Please don't use this argument. It wreaks of naiveness — just because you don't find need for handheld devices doesn't mean there is no use for them. Anyone in a job that requires to keep in touch with a lot of people, on a tight schedule, will tell you that the iPhone is a dream come true for productivity.

Personally, I find myself carrying a PDA and a phone, and continually run into annoying syncing problems, switching between devices for WiFi, etc. And my job isn't nearly as schedule & contact demanding as many of the jobs out there.

Finally, an 80GB iPod goes for $350. Considering the added benefits of the iPhone over standard iPods, it's quite easy to see why a lot of people are excited. Not only will it merge their PDA and phone — but their iPod as well.

Reducing pocket bulges from 3 devices to 1 should explain why the product release is resulting in bulging pants for a lot of people.

educing pocket bulges from 3 devices to 1 should explain why the product release is resulting in bulging pants for a lot of people.

Do tell us, hthth, how reduced bulge could in fact lead to increased bulging? ;-)

Do tell us, hthth, how reduced bulge could in fact lead to increased bulging? ;-)

Is that a banana in your pocket, or is the release of the iPhone imminent?

Why sir, I do believe I'm blushing!

no it's still just a phone, it's has a very clever UI but it's still just a phone (which what you're paying all the money for).

My Razr sync's with my Macs just fine, calendar, contents, reminders, blah blah. As for watching video, photos, Maps? superfluous nonsense that most people won't use, feature bloat, Apple is the new MS of phones.

Yes you can put video on it and show it off, you can put photo's on it and show it off, but what use is that feature? Keeping snapshots of your family on? More "stick your tongue out because your pissed" images on Flickr?

"touch your music" the man is having a giraffe! iPhone is all about the cool and 30% about the practicality.

superfluous nonsense that most people won't use

Yes but the point is: those people won't buy it. No one's denying the possibility that the iPhone market may be quite a niche market. (As much as Apple might like it to become mainstream.)

The people that will use it will buy it and want to talk about it. Those that won't won't buy it (and will complain about the hype, invariably).

A lot of people seem to be missing that point.

At lot of people think a lot of things are useless. The only difference here is the amount of hype, because of the innovation. (You can argue about how useful it is all you want, no one can deny that the iPhone is hugely innovative and new.)

Rich said it all. Excellently put.